Asia Via Australia on an ANA Award Ticket — Unmatched Value!

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Yesterday, I wrote about the much-needed improvement in the ANA award ticket booking — the ability to search and book awards to multiple zones. It didn’t use to be the case, as all you could do was search and book a ticket to one zone. Anything else — you would have to call ANA.

The ANA Award Tool Can Search Multiple Zones Now!

This development made me remember what Welltraveledmile once said about the possible award that would combine Ocenia and Asia.

ANA Award Ticket ANA Zones

ANA Award Ticket: Routing Rules

When one window closes, another opens. I’m not getting philosophical but did you notice that while you can’t transit via Europe en route to Asia, you are allowed transit through Australia!

So I did some digging on the improved ANA site, and what do you know — you are indeed!

ANA Routing Rules Allow you to Fly to Asia via Oceania for 75,000 Miles

ANA Award Ticket JFK-SYD-AKL-HND-NRT on ANA Coach

ANA Award Ticket: SFO-AKL-SYD-NRT-JFK

As you can see, you could be able to visit Sydney, Auckland and Tokyo for 75,000 miles — the price of visiting Sydney and Auckland. Of course, you would pay $346 in fuel surcharges, which — if you know me — you know I’m not a fan of. So the first thing I wanted to check was if we could do better. And, indeed we can, if you are as flexible on the destinations as I am. If you don’t mind substituting Tokyo for Hong Kong, you will only pay $112 for the YQ scamcharge, but transiting via Beijing adds about $40 to the taxes.  Still, you’ll save almost $200.

ANA Award Ticket JFK-SYD-AKL-HKG on ANA and CA Coach

ANA Award Ticket: SFO-AKL-SYD–NRT-HKG-PEK-JFK

Routing your flight back home via Seoul will shaves $50 off the YQ scamcharge and $40 off the cost of ticket.

ANA Award Ticket JFK-SYD-AKL-HKG on ANA and OZ BIZ

ANA Award Ticket: SFO-AKL-SYD–NRT-HKG-INC-JFK

But what you do want to visit Japan from Oceania without paying through your nose?

Well, if you do wish to visit Japan along with Sydney and Auckland, but want to make a stand against bad business practices (and save $375 in the process), you can simply route your flight to Tokyo via Shanghai instead of flying there directly from Auckland. Good bye, YQ! My principles don’t stretch so far, so I would go down that route, only if there wasn’t any non-stop availability. 🙂

ANA Award Ticket JFK-AKL-NRT Coach

ANA Award Ticket: JFK-SFO-AKL-PVG-NRT-JFK

But Andy, you might say, it’s a long way to fly in coach. 13 hours from the East Coast to Auckland, 10 hours each between Sydney and Tokyo and Tokyo and the East Coast. How about business or first?

Well, I thought, you’d never ask.

Business Class ANA Award Ticket to Oceania and Asia

Here is the ANA award chart on partner airlines.

ANA Partners Chart

And here are the zones.

ANA Select Zones

Did you notice that while a flight to Asia 2 costs you 80,000 miles in economy and 136,000 miles in business, a flight to Oceania goes for 75,000 miles in economy and 120 in business? So who, do you think, will win for a flight that would combine both?

Just look at this beauty!

ANA Award Ticket__LAX-AKL-SYD-BKK-HKG-SEA

ANA Award Ticket: LAX-AKL-SYD-BKK-HKG-INC-SEA

 

  1. You get to visit 4 cities: Auckland, Sydney, Bangkok and Hong Kong.
  2. You get 1 stopover and 2 open jaws (if you need them). UPDATE: As Dino pointed out in his comment, there are actually 3 open jaws in this flight, not 2, thanks! 
  3. You get to ride in business all the way.
  4. You pay 16,000 fewer miles than if you fly to Bangkok only.
  5. All for just $228 in fuel surcharges — even I would be OK with that.

I’m sure you could do slightly better in terms of fuel surcharges if you get to BKK on Asiana rather than Thai, but Thai flies non-stop from Sydney. And I’m sure you could further pimp your ride, adding some exotic routes and what’s not, but this here is the basics.

Just make sure to fly back home from Hong Kong, China, or the Philippines if you want to keep these damn scamcharges to minimum.

Use Avios for Flights in Between 

Getting between Auckland and Sydney is easy as pie. This segment is served by LAN on its way to from Santiago. You know what it means, right? Lie-flat seats and international service, that’s what! While it’s just a 4-hour flight, it’s worth 20,000 Avios in business, IMHO, otherwise it’s 10K in economy.

BA AKL-SYD

The BKK-HKG segment is served by Cathay Pacific. It’s a 3-hour flight — 15,000 in business, 7,500 in economy.

BA BKK-HKG

If you are concerned with Air New Zealand business class availability, I feel your pain. But unlike the past, at least there is some now.

In addition, there are more non-stop departure opportunities than LA and more airlines than Air New Zealand that can work for you.

Auckland

  1. Air New Zealand flies to Auckland from Los Angeles, San Francisco, Vancouver, Houston and Honolulu (untapped opportunities!).
  2. United will begin flights to Auckland from San Francisco after June 3.
  3. Hawaiian from Honolulu (must call)

Sydney

  1. United from Los Angeles and San Francisco
  2. Air Canada from Vancouver and Toronto.

And of course, there are other routing gems that make me believe that ANA Mileage Club might be the best frequent flyer program in the world!

To be continued!

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8 Responses to Asia Via Australia on an ANA Award Ticket — Unmatched Value!

  1. Rich says:

    ANA is scheduled to drop fuel surcharges April 1, so this may resolve itself!

  2. Dave says:

    I have a question. Since Africa is such a HUGE region for ANA, do you think this routing is legal for their set economy miles?

    DFW – AUH – DEL (stopover… or really anywhere in India)
    DEL-AUH-EBB (destination)
    EBB-AUH-DFW (home)

    All EY metal

    • Andy Shuman says:

      @Dave: Unlikely. India is in Area 3 (zone 2), ME is in Area 2 (zone 8, I think). You can’t fly from 1 to 3 via 2.
      @Singh: Or or and? If you want to combine India and ME you can’t. Either one — sure! If you want both, AA miles are ideal on Etihad. I believe the levels for ME/India haven’t devalued.

      • Dave says:

        Andy – I misread the chart and had thought Africa and India were in the same zone. What I really meant is, Africa is a huge zone. Am I able to use Etihad and utilize a stopover in JNB then on to somewhere like CAI

        So let’s say :
        DFW-AUH-JNB
        JNB-AUH-CAI
        CAI-AUH-DFW

        This would be assuming they let you route through AUH to get to Africa). Essentially what I”m saying is Africa is huge and do they let you roam the continent with a stopover for the same set award mileage? I’m a value traveler, so like to get bang for my miles. While the AA devaluation totally sucked, a quote that you had said still sticks with me. My goal isn’t to fly business/first class, it’s to travel the world, so economy is fine for me.

        • Dave says:

          Or Heck, it looks like Zone 4 is huge too. Would there be a way to visit India and with a stopover in Thailand or Malaysia on a single Zone 4 award?

          I haven’t though strategically route maps strategically though, to know such a routing. Expanding on my comment above. Being able to visit two unique areas of the world on one award ticket is really an awesome deal

  3. Singh says:

    @Andy how about going to BOM/DEL or Dubai in Middle East?

  4. Dino says:

    Andy, on your last screen shot, that’s actuall 3 open-jaws, not 2. I’m guessing they allow that many then?

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